
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Riiiighhht?
I wonder what it must be like to be able to look at a scene like that and find a negative spin on it. To be THAT bitter and petty and that much of a fanboy purist who refuses to see anything good in something.
As far as I’m concerned, saving people out of obligation is the definition of heroism.
I don’t think I want to know Hector Navarro’s opinions on people who do heroic shit in real-life.
Brings into mind the scene where Martha Kent tells Clark “You don’t owe this world a thing” and the one where Hyppolyta tella Diana “They don’t deserve you”, but they still decide to serve – and not conquer – mankind.
Man of Steel changed the way I look at movies, not just superhero movies, but movies in general. It gave me the Superman I’d wanted to see since choldhood. A Superman that I not only related to, but could really look up to. He wasn’t just a grinning boy scout with little character depth, he was a Superman.
In a movie that had heart and soul. A movie with pain and love, dark and light. A villain that really felt scary and I couldn’t predict how it was going to end.And it gave me hope. Not just in my personal life, as I’ve discussed before, but it gave me hope in art. Movies as art. Superhero movies didn’t need to be high-saturated, popcorn movies with nice, neat, closed plots. They could be big, epic, meaningful artistic narratives! Something that reflected how important the mythology of superheroes is to the fans.
And then Batman V Superman came out and enriched everything that Man of Steel established. It built on the foundations and not only gave us a universe where Batman and Wonder Woman can fight alongside Superman, but it gave us some understanding of WHY these heroes do what they do and why they are teaming up. We saw Wonder Woman get slowly dragged back into heroism, and we knew why. She didn’t just suddenly, inexplicably drop out of nowhere onto the roof of a jet and start beating up another hero with absolutely no explanation. She hesitated, she fought her instincts and tried to be impartial, but the hero in her wouldn’t let her. And let’s not get into the extraordinary depth of character and development of Batman in this movie. Because that’s an essay into itself.
And then we saw the sacrifice of the hero who started all this. Whose sacrifice inspired these weathered, wary heroes into action again.
What a beautiful way to end a movie but start another! The dovetailing of this writing is genius.After this we got Suicide Squad. A bit of a frantic, hectic, off-kilter movie about villains. It did a lot for world building, but most importantly it showed us what kind of people our heroes have faced before, and will face again. It showed us how strong and capable the villains can be, and this added so much to this universe that it is an invaluable movie.
Now, we have Wonder Woman! Adding more exposition to Diana’s motives in the modern day, this beautifully layered movie provided us with the first Wonder Woman movie, and yet but another incredible chapter to the DCEU. Never losing track of the themes and ideals of the shared universe, but maintaining its own unique voice, this movie delivered the finest superhero origin movie to date. While I still personally feel that it shares the stage with Man of Steel in terms of quality, it stands out on its own merits, because it is the first Wonder Woman movie, the first Wonder Woman origin story on the big screen and the first time a superhero movie has had such widespread, universal appeal.
It still considered the sense of realism established in the previous movies, showing the reality of war, a hero that will put the needs of others above her own and it kept a sense of doubt and confusion in the face of responsibility.These movies have all been amazing in their own ways, and stand out as their own entities whilst keeping the universe cohesive. No other franchise has done this yet.
And it’s far from over.
This November, we get to see another huge milestone as Justice League hits the big screen. And I for one can not wait to see how this builds on what we’ve seen so far, and what will be built upon it.
It is a phenomenal time to be a DC fan, but it’s also a great time to be a movie fan and a superhero fan, too.
Bring it on.
THIS. THIS. And, THIS.
Thank you.
So, I just watched “Wonder Woman”. And as a fan (and reader) of DC comics, I wasn’t surprised by how the story unfolded, but still incredibly grateful to the Tumblr users who took care not to spoil it for me and other audiences anyway. 🙂
While it isn’t my favorite (“BvS” still holds that special place in my geeky heart), it made me appreciate the DCEU’s storytelling strategy more.
For one, the introduction of the most well-known “Trinity” in the DC universe before everybody else. It’s a risk. A bold move. Not for everyone. Fine. But it works for little ol’ me (and, I’m pretty sure, many, many others like me… queue: “Help me find the others like you.” I digress.) It’s not like these risks and bold moves don’t make sense, after all. Or, okay. They at least make sense to one fan – me.
I won’t give a detailed commentary now (since I’ve got to get up for work in a few hours), but I love how story-driven the films have been so far. The films are so clearly intertwined (even when there’s a focus on a specific character) that watching one kind of gives nostalgia for the other… If that makes sense?
Each of the “Trinity” has been shown to be faced with moral dilemmas that are as significant when these characters were first created as they are in these times.
I guess I’ve always just been more drawn to stories and meaningful dialogue rather than visual effects, fight scenes, or attempts at shock value (although, those can definitely help). And that’s what I found in DC comics (especially with the Bat Family) and that’s what I’m getting from the DCEU right now.
Anyway. I just wanted to put it out there. DCEU, I’m proud of the stories you’re weaving/re-weaving. Thank you.

In an interview, Snyder described Batman’s hatred for Superman as
“finding reinforcement of those feelings in the media.” So Snyder
employed a supporting cast of political pundits who expand Batman v
Superman into a kind of meta-media commentary: Anderson Cooper, Charlie
Rose, and Nancy Grace are among those crossing the line from TV news to
Hollywood fantasy. They frequently, brazenly blur the distinction
between fact and fiction, objectivity and venality, mendacity and truth.
This has been going on at least since the 1990s, and it still is a
problem for both journalism and Hollywood (Nancy Grace, Lawrence
O’Donnell, and Dr. Drew Pinsky popped up last week in Midnight Special).
Soledad O’Brien and Neil deGrasse Tyson also appear in Batman v
Superman, along with Andrew Sullivan, seen shouting, “Every act is a
political act!” That may be so (Snyder’s a sly dog), but pundits who
don’t stick to their day-jobs lose credibility.Excerpt from Armond White’s critique of Batman v Superman

There are a few reasons but a big one is that people don’t have a pre-conceived notion of Wonder Woman whereas everyone has an idea of how Superman is ‘’supposed’’ to be and it was a lot easier to say that Zack Snyder must have fundamentally misunderstood the character or have an outright hatred for him rather than admitting that Their view of him was outdated. Zack Snyder’s involvement is a big factor too as people seem obsessed with blaming him for making thus universe ‘’dark and edgy’’ instead of considering that They simply don’t know the source material very well (That tweet where someone slammed him for Aquaman’s trident having five points instead of three, saying that it was to make it more extreme when Aquaman’s trident from the comics is the exact same is a perfect summary of that mentality).
The films had flaws, no question about it, and I’ll happily concede that there are good reasons why some people don’t like Them but I still can’t see anything to justify the sheer level of hatred They and Zack Snyder have gotten.
I suspect aside from bias against zack snyder, maybe wonder woman have more humor than both MoS and BvS(which are very subtle and less obvious), thus why people find wonder woman are less grim compare than MoS and BvS. But hey the movie is not considered to be grim and dark if it have plenty of HAHA moment.
Or maybe Wonder woman hope and optimisms message is easier to understand and relate compare to both MoS and BvS maybe.
But I agree that main factor in this is a preconceived or existing notion of the character
Also the complete lack of understanding about long term story development. MoS and BvS were about the plot developing naturally into something more light. It starts with Superman feeling alone and isolate, leads into the struggle of heroes finding their direction in BvS (mostly Batman and Wonder Woman, whilst giving Superman the chance to return to a world that better understands and trusts him). SS served to show that there are other threats out there, and show what a world without the Justice League could potentially be like. And Wonder Woman comes along, and it’s set outside of that development for the nosy part, but lays out a clear blueprint about who Diana is and why she doe what she does.
This all leads neatly into Justice League.
Audiences think that a cohesive movie universe must be guest appearances and Easter eggs galore in every movie lest you forget they’re connected, but these movies were building something from the start and the audience wasn’t patient enough to respect that.
Wonder Woman is so successful in this series, because it’s really the only movie that stands completely separate from the build up to JL by having its own self contained plot.
The thing about The LEGO Batman Movie (2017) is that it really is a satire of its comic book counterpart. It simplifies (and humorously so) a lot of deep canon concepts in the Batman universe that fans who intimately know the Batfamily can relate to and those who aren’t yet can appreciate nonetheless.
I mean, even this little scene right here? Robin being put on “time out” for disobeying Batman’s orders? And Dick being an enthusiastic Boy Wonder who’s grateful to Bruce for being a friend/father figure regardless of the drama that surrounds them? I think it playfully sums up much of their dynamic.
Only the DCEU can get me hyped over fucking popcorn buckets
Same. As far as I know, I’ve never bought food-related cinema merchandise, even for other films that I love. But now I’m looking at the Justice League popcorn bucket and wondering if one can reserve it with the ticket months ahead.
You think my muscles are big? You haven’t seen my brain.
Batman, The LEGO Batman Movie (2017)
One of the most accurate descriptions of Bruce. Ever.